What about Kuwait?

Here’s a serious question from michael o ( michaelogorman@hotmail.com / ):

“Nice to find your blog. I’m always interested in a dialog with you because I think the anti-war movement needs to answer many of these questions – how to support democracy abroad, what do we do about despots like Saddam, etc. They are not easy answers and people like easy answers, slogans, etc.

“But one question about democracy, John, if we (the US) was serious about democracy why didn’t we ask for it in Kuwait after 1991? That is one of the most oppressive, non-democratic societies in the world to anyone who is not part of the oil-class.”

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My excuse

We are in the process of moving to Murfreesboro. I won’t have an internet connection until Thursday. I am currently connecting by bootlegging off the next door neighbor’s unprotected wireless network, but the only way I can do it is to sit on the far end of the front porch with the laptop, and the mosquitos are brutal. Also, Candace was in an accident (she wasn’t hurt) that totaled our car, so we are very preoccupied. Blogging, therefore, is somewhat sporadic.

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C’mon People Now

If you want to argue with me, then argue with me. Here are the points that you need to respond to, simplified so you can’t miss them. So far nobody has said anything that is relevant.

1. Of course Iraq is a quagmire. The entire Middle East is a festering swamp that breeds terrorists like mosquitos.

2. Establishing a stable democracy in a region that has never known democracy is not a simple matter.

3. If anyone has a better idea for dealing with the root causes of terrorism, than doing whatever it takes to foster democracy in the Middle East, I would love to hear it.

4. John Kerry says he will pull out of Iraq during his first term. That’s not a good idea.

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Iraq Is a Quagmire

Of course Iraq is a quagmire. The entire Middle East is a festering swamp that breeds terrorists like mosquitos. If there were some way to avoid setting foot in it, I would be all in favor of it, as would all Americans. But we don’t have a choice. Until the swamp is drained, it will continue to fester and produce the psychotic death cult that threatens us and the entire civilized world.

Establishing a stable democracy in a region that has never known democracy is not a simple matter. It requires a huge cultural shift, and takes a long time. Look at American history. Aaron Burr, as did others, tried to set up his own kingdom out west, and later killed the Treasury Secretary, Alexander Hamilton, in a duel. The Whiskey Rebellion had to be put down by federal troops. There were bloody draft riots in New York City. We had a civil war that killed more Americans than any other war we have ever been in. Reconstruction spawned the KKK, a terrorist organization that was a serious threat until recently, and that still exists today. Democracy in the U.S. did not just spring into existence in 1776. It has had a long and bloody history. The culture of tolerance of diversity and respect for law and democratic institutions that we take for granted today, didn’t begin to look like a sure thing until at least 100 years after the revolution. And this is in a country imbued in the English tradition of the Magna Carta and John Locke.

I wish there were a quick fix. If anyone has a better idea for dealing with the root causes of terrorism, than doing whatever it takes to foster democracy in the Middle East, I would love to hear it. John Kerry says he will pull out of Iraq during his first term. That’s not a good idea.

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More AP Corrections Found

IowaHawk has the goods.

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I respond to my pitifully few readers

One of the best ways to judge a blog is by the quality of the comments. Since nobody reads my blog except a handful of my loony left friends, and only the looniest of them bother to post comments, the prognosis is not good. It’s very discouraging, but, you have to play the hand that’s dealt you, so I guess I have no choice. I have to respond. Here are a few of the, believe it or not, most coherent excerpts from the comments, with my replies:

from Paul Mandelstein:
You got to give to the raw meat eating RNC…making sushi out of Kerry….right or wrong, truth or lies.. it does not seem to matter….it’s a slug fest..a thug fest..and the dems need to learn how to sucker punch and talk straight……

my reply:
Here’s a quote from Mark Steyn:

“Americans should be free to call Bush a moron, a liar, a fraud, a deserter, an agent of the House of Saud, a mass murderer, a mass rapist (according to the speaker at a National Organization for Women rally last week) and the new Hitler (according to just about everyone). But how dare anyone be so impertinent as to insult John Kerry!”

I think the Democrats don’t need any lessons. They’re doing just fine.

from rico:
paul, are we the only dilletantes of this man’s ponderings?

like, jon stewart said on nightline last nite, the press has to get tougher about the way lies get told through out of context double talk…

my reply:
Where to begin? Have you read anything about the AP story which purposely inserted non-existent boos, in order to make Republicans look bad?

Or this AP story that calls Schwarzenegger a liar, when a cursory reading of his speech makes it clear that the AP are the liars?

Here’s an account of one man’s attempt to shame the New York Times into dong their job to fairly report such things as Bush’s “desertion” which was a front page story for weeks, for which there has never been any evidence, versus the news blackout when 250 of Kerry’s “band of brothers” expose his made-up story about being in Cambodia for Christmas.

The big media are in the tank for Kerry, although they are just beginning to back away, since nobody likes a loser. As Evan Thomas, Assistant Managing Editor of Newsweek said:

“There’s one other base here, the media. Let’s talk a little media bias here. The media, I think, wants Kerry to win and I think they’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards I’m talking about the establishment media, not Fox. They’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards as being young and dynamic and optimistic and there’s going to be this glow about them, collective glow, the two of them, that’s going to be worth maybe 15 points.”

The full text of his transcript is here.

from running spirit:
What? Philosophy has been permanently exiled by the banter of the villagers? The townsquare is buzzing with what ‘they’ are doing…the orators, the tax collectors, the Gods…while machines are being rigged for the outcome they choose for themselves…the upper 3%. Dems are no better than republicans. USA today sent Michael Moore to the RNC and some other heavy right winger to the DNC just to see what one side thinks of the other. Now what? Is Love sweeter, stock market fatter, education really preparing our kids to think for themselves, prepared to care for our world we leave them? Farmies, what’s happened to the dream?

my reply:
This is from a former girlfriend of mine. You see what I have to deal with? Let me attempt to extract some meaning from the above free verse: Politics is bad. Politicians are bad. Politics has nothing to do with the things that really matter.

I beg to differ with my own interpretation of what she is talking about. Politics, in a democracy, is simply the way in which groups of people, in this case the USA, figure out how to solve their collective problems. Politics is a noble calling. Many of those called are, and have been, noble. Some are not. If you don’t like the outcome, the only thing you can do about it, besides voting, is to attempt to persuade others to your point of view. That’s how it works. The alternative is tyranny.

from rico:
I’m beginning to think that the Russians and the Chinese are our best allies. Watch and see how they handle fundamentalist uprisings in their territories. Would you want to be a citizen of Chechyna who is not a hard liner Muslim?

The US approach to secularism is not being waged by Bush and his cronies right now. They are alienating more and more people by their narrow minded rhetoric.

Prove me wrong…

my reply:
Shooting school children in the back is what you call a “fundamentalist uprising”? You think “Bush and his cronies” are about to institute a theocracy in the U.S.? And I have to prove you wrong?

from rico:
You can’t make people equal simply by force. Our present gov’t doesn’t want to eliminiate war as a method. In fact, war is a primary tool for the US to keep it’s domination of resources and waste going.

We’re 1/20 of the world population, yet we use 1/4 of the resources and produce 1/4 of the garbage of thw world. And ‘we say’ that we want everyone to be free like us, but it’s a lie. We exploit the rest of the 3rd and 4th world to maintain our life style and we use force if necessary to keep it that way….

So, I say that by going along with the policies of Bush and his cronies you are dooming 1 billion innocent citizens to suffering, just so you can sit behind a computer and think you are right.

It ain’t just about women being free in these repressive cultures…it’s about the West thinking we can just steamroll over these cultures and make them free…for us to exploit…that’s got to stop, too, otherwise this clash of cultures will never stop…

my reply:
You can’t make people equal period. They aren’t equal. They never will be. Bush is certainly not trying to. You can, however, free people by force, e.g., WWII, the not so cold war, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and now Iraq. As Protest Warrior says, “Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism, and communism, war never solved anything.”

I’m so tired of this crap about how we are prosperous because the third world is poor. It’s just nonsense. We didn’t make them poor, and we don’t want them to be poor. The richer they are, the richer we will be. If the evil corporations could wave a magic wand and turn everyone in the world into a flush with cash consumer, they would do it in a heartbeat. Also, the richer a nation is, the better their environmental record. If you want to see desecration of the environment, go to a communist, or former communist country. Becoming a free, prosperous, capitalist democracy is not simple. It requires a huge cultural shift, and takes a long time.

from Bob:
I don’t know a single person who advocates “slavish devotion.” But it’s impossible for me to imagine Jesus condoning the use of bombs and machine guns for any purpose whatsoever. The horrors of Caesar and Rome were certainly the equal of Saddam and Iraq, yet nowhere does Jesus advocate violence in order to “liberate” (in the political and not the spiritual sense of the term) the people of Israel. As for arguing and loving, I think Jesus simply determined to tell the truth as he saw it (including the principle of nonviolence) and to accept the consequences: “Hey, killing our enemies hasn’t worked all that well so let’s try something else.”

my reply:
You may be right about Jesus. Even I am not quite arrogant enough to speak for Him. Nevertheless, one of the things I like about JC is that he didn’t leave us with a stone tablet full of rules, like Moses or Mohammed. He left us with a series of brilliant allegories, the interpretation of which was left up to the listener, or reader. These interpretations have been the subject of much discussion ever since.

He did leave us with one rule, “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.” If I were an Iraqi, or an Afghani, I would have prayed for the Americans, or anybody, to liberate me from the Taliban and Sadaam Hussein. Although certainly not unanimous, I believe that is the majority opinion in both countries.

Well, that’s it. Love you guys.

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Wussup Andrew?

Andrew Sullivan appears to have completely bought in to the mainstream media’s Bush-orchestrated “smear” theory of the swift boats controversy. Does he seriously believe that 254 naval officers and enlisted men, admirals and medal of honor winners, are uncredible Republican operatives? Bush didn’t make Vietnam the central issue of the Kerry campaign. Kerry did that. The swifties are, and have been, understandably angry about John Kerry’s 1971 characterization of them as war criminals. They would be doing this regardless of John Kerry’s opponent. Several of their allegations, most notably concerning the Christmas in Cambodia fantasy, have been proven correct. Most of the rest of their allegations are unproven, one way or another. They have every right in the world to express their opinions, and they have the credentials to be taken seriously. The unsupported ad hominem attacks against them and the unquestioning acceptance of Kerry’s unsubstantiated charge of illegal RNC coordination have become the mantra of the mainstream media. That someone like Sullivan, with his fearlessly independent analytical mind, would so casually join in the chant, is astounding to me.

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Time Will Tell

Simon Schama begins his magisterial book on the FRENCH REVOLUTION,
Citizens, by relating the reply of Chinese Premier Zhou En-lai to a
question about the significance of those 1789 events: It’s too soon to tell.

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Mom Corrects Me

My mother objects to my characterization of her as a life-long atheist. I should have known better. Here is her statement:

From: BettySeward@aol.com
Date: August 25, 2004 12:00:19 PM CDT
To: jns@pubblog.com

It’s not true that I’m a “lifelong atheist”.  I was brought up in the Congregational Church and attended Sunday School and later church until I left home.  I sang in the church choir all through college.  In Watertown where your father and I met, my first date with him was after a rehearsal of the all-city church choirs singing The Messiah.  So I went from acceptance to indifference to doubt, and finally to atheist.  I guess you could say I’m a “recovered Christian”.

Love,
Mom

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Waiting for History

I would love to say something insightful (or even inciteful) and profound about the whole Najaf Al Sadr holy shrine of Imam Ali engagement, but the truth is I have no idea whether it has been handled brilliantly or badly. In order to say anything intelligent about it I would have to be, not only a military expert, but an expert on all the ins and outs of Iraqi Shiite politics, and knowledgeable about the psychology and relative strength of all of the competing and cooperating Iraqi subcultures. People with these qualifications may exist, but I’m not aware of any. I’m not sure that anyone really knows for sure if things are going well or badly for the U.S. in Iraq. We’re there. We’re doing the best we can. And only time will tell whether it was a bold, brilliant, noble endeavor, or a big mistake. I and others are betting on the former. Many are betting on the latter. None of us knows for sure.
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